In this episode, David W. Congdon (@dwcongdon) joins me to discuss his latest research. We dive into the Christian postliberal phenomenon and trace some of its intellectual genealogies and discursive coalitions. We also talk about Karl Barth, Rudolf Bultmann, apocalyptic theology and existentialism, and the varieties of universalism. David is senior editor at the University Press of Kansas, where he acquires books in the fields of U.S. history, political science, law, religion, Indigenous studies, and environmental studies. He also teaches theology at the University of Dubuque Theological Seminary. He is the author of several books, including Rudolf Bultmann: A Companion to His Theology and The God Who Saves: A Dogmatic Sketch. He is currently finishing up a new book on religion and politics in modernity.